A Doctrine from Eden Reborn

Once again I am writing a post on my iPhone 4, but this time my words are being composed in a hotel laundry room (believe it or not, there’s a funny story here, but I will save it for later).

And, if you remember, a couple of posts ago I promised to tell you about an unbiblical, heretical doctrine sweeping parts of the church. Since I have 30 minutes left on the dryer cycle, now is a good time.

The Beginning

In order to put things in perspective, we must start with the beginning. And when I say beginning, I mean THE beginning. Please consider the following verses, for they are critical:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

It should be obvious, according to the above verses, that not only did God create the universe, but that the Word which He spoke was none other than Jesus Christ. The doctrine that Jesus is the “express image” of God the Father, even God Himself (Hebrews 1:3), is at the core of orthodox Christianity. Jesus was not just a good man or prophet, and neither were the words of God at creation just words spoken in faith.

Did you get that last part? That’s the part I want to address.

Faith in Words

There is a teaching still being taught that essentially says, “If you have faith in your words, as God had faith when He spoke the worlds into being, you can also create a miracle, your own reality. You can be like God, if you have the faith of God.

Excuse me? God had faith? Really? If so, in what?

First, stop and think about this! Do you realize that God is the Giver and Author of faith (Hebrews 12:1-2), not One who puts His faith in something or someone? There is something fundamentally wrong with the idea that Omnipotence would have any reason to have faith, for the very definition of faith requires a sense of dependence. When God speaks, things happen; not because of His faith, but because He’s God!

Secondly, ask yourself, “If God had faith in His Word, then would that make Him the first Christian?” How silly does that sound? But in reality, if we are to believe that God had faith in His words, which brought about creation, then would it not stand to reason, if John 1:1 is correct, that God the Father put His faith in Jesus? Was not Jesus the Word that created all things?

Then, there is the worst part…

Words of the Serpent

Do you remember how Satan tempted eve in the garden of Eden? Remember how he tried to convince her that by eating the fruit, she could “be as gods?” How similar, then, is the promise, “If you have faith in your words, as God had faith in His words, you can create like God did?”

If you think I’m making this stuff up, my friends, consider the following statements by one of the foremost teachers of this false doctrine:

“You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.”
Kenneth Copeland, ‘Inner Image of the Covenant,’ side 2.

“God used words when He created the heaven and the earth….Each time God spoke, He released His faith — the creative power to bring His words to pass.”
Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1980), 4.

It may anger some of you, my readers, but please don’t be offended. Do as Paul told Timothy, “take heed unto thyself, and to [thy] doctrine” (1 Timothy 4:16). Please understand, to claim one has the power to create, as God created, is heresy of the highest order! Faith in our words, outside of faith in God, especially in order to bring about our will, as opposed to, or in spite of God’s will, is nothing less than witchcraft. Even more, it is the doctrine of Eden reborn: “you shall be as gods.”

Laundry is Done

Well, my laundry has been done for a while, now. Morning comes early.

I hope this post was beneficial to you in some way. But, if your were a Kenneth Copeland fan, I’m sorry. At least I didn’t mention Joel Osteen, so we can still be friends, right? Right?


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6 responses to “A Doctrine from Eden Reborn

  1. Very good post! I read you post this morning (Saturday) as I was beginning to look over the Sunday School lesson I’m teaching in the morning from Colossians 2. Verse 8 reads” See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy….” I appreciate your stand for the truth.
    Stay strong!


  2. A) I think some of your logic is not as strong as it could be, though you are correct. That being said, excellent post and great points. I still agree 100%!

    2) I have a friend who has listened to Kenneth Copeland for many years. When he started having me listen, my first thoughts were, “This guy is kind of weird, but my friend likes him!” For a while I even followed along with what they were saying, almost (but not quite) believing it all. It was the comments you listed above that triggered my change of heart and new understanding.

    Also) I follow a few more liberal Christian bloggers (some of those are incredibly liberal), and even though they do not espouse this “Name it and claim it” type stuff they do espouse something you brought up here. Rachel Held Evans posted an entry by some guys asking “Is God really omnipotent?” They believe in some neo-orthodoxy stuff that God does not really know the future, but He is powerful enough to move all things toward a unified goal (including a universalist ideal of all people getting into Heaven). They actually argue that God and humans are co-dependent on each other to achieve this goal. Simply put, God needs us as much as we need Him. I think this is just as dangerous as “having the same faith God had when He created” (to paraphrase slightly).

    • OK, I accept your assessment of my logic, but two clarifications must be made. First, I the only time I officially studied logic was in college math. Second, I’m just glad I was able to write coherent sentences at 1:30 in the morning. If my wife had known what I was doing, she’d taken my phone away. We had to be in a meeting at 8:30!

      Now, I remember hearing that “God needing us” theory way back in 1989 or 90. I attended a lecture in which my philosophy professor presented it. I was not impressed as a college student, and I’m less impressed now.

  3. Out of Eden Ministries

    Oh. Please. Mention Joel. Please.

    Great post! I gave that guy a listen many years ago and he made me uncomfortable, so I stopped listening. Glad I did!

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