A Recovering Logos-ist

Daniel Klem is a long-time blogger friend. He was a regular contributor to ProverbialThought.com and has even traveled all the way from Arizona to go Chrismas caroling with us 🙂 – Anthony Baker

I know. That is quite a title.

This can potentially be huge . . . if you know anything about Greek and theology.

A brief lesson for those who could use it:

John 1:1: “In the beginning was the Logos …”

Logos means “the Word.” Therefore, according to the Bible, Jesus is the Word, and that means He is God (see the rest of the verse), Creator (Genesis 1, God spoke), and Savior (1 Corinthians 15:1-2).

Therefore, the title of this post could very easily be understood as “A Recovering Christian.”

In a way, this is true. We should always be in a state of recovery as Christians: in mind (Romans 12:2), spirit (Ephesians 4:23), and character (2 Corinthians 4:16).

However, what I mean is something different. And I may make some of my friends unhappy with me if they read this.

Word of Faith

Perhaps you have heard of the Word of Faith (or Word-Faith, Faith, or Positive Confession) movement in the Church. (And forgive me for linking to Wikipedia.) To summarize the movement’s teaching, there is power available to the Christian through the Holy Spirit to have whatever we need (or simply want), and all we need is enough faith.

This has spread throughout the Church around the world, but the most famous of Faith preachers can typically be found on the Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN).

I fell into part of this movement almost a decade ago. It was one of the sneakiest varieties, too, because this movement typically does not deny the deity of Christ or that He came in the flesh (read 1 John; it covers every aspect of discerning this).

All one has to do, though, is speak in faith or act in faith, and God is almost compelled to do what we ask or believe He should do.

I did realize this is false teaching. However, why would I call myself “recovering”?

Still Learning

If there is one thing the Word-Faith movement gets right, it is encouraging Christians to boldly walk by faith. However, when I left the movement, I almost went full Cessationist. (It will take too long to explain here exactly where I stand, but I do believe the Holy Spirit can move through people today to perform miracles, signs, and wonders. However, it may be different from what some preach today.)

This is my recovery. I am learning to balance trusting in God’s Logos (The Word = both the Bible and the Son) and not automatically discounting every miracle or story of God’s moving. There are times I expect God to move in a certain way, and there are times I fail to believe He would even want to help me with something in particular.

In the end, the truest meaning of “whatever you ask in my name” is that we are asking in the same character of Christ.

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly … put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.
Colossians 3:16, 10, ESV

Have you had any experiences with the Word-Faith movement? Leave a comment and let’s discuss.


Filed under Christian Living, Faith, Guest Posts, legalism

8 responses to “A Recovering Logos-ist

  1. Chris Jordan

    Thanks for the great post, Daniel. When I first became a Christian, I attended a Word Faith church for the first several years of my walk with Jesus. However, as I grew in the Lord and in the knowledge of His Word, and God opened my eyes to the truths contained in the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit also thankfully led me out of those churches and that false teaching.

    However, when I left the Word Faith movement behind, a good pastor friend of mine encouraged me with this truth – to not throw out the baby with the bath water. In other words, just because there were many wrong teachings and excesses in this movement, doesn’t mean that some of the things they taught were true. For example, the same Jesus who is a Saviour is also a Healer (Psalm 103 – He forgives all our sins and heals all our diseases; Isaiah 53 – He was pierced for our transgressions, and by His stripes, we are healed). Somewhere in between I found balance – that Jesus still does heal today, but not always every time…

    • Chris, thanks for sharing that. One thing I like about the Church of the Nazarene (where I was born again and “grew up” the first few years) is that many teach the balance we should have. It took drastic measures for me, though, to learn: new state (Illinois to Arizona) and new friends. That is “all it took”, but it also helped make the Sermon on the Mount more understandable! It had once been intuitive for me, but suffering and need took time.

  2. Lee Lumley

    I grew up in a denomination that is now rampant with this teaching. It sickening, as I have matured in actual biblical doctrine, to see how far the movement has strayed. God has been minimalized down to nothing more than a spiritual ATM machine. He is exists for our pleasure. I still visit these churches from time to time as I still have friends and family who are members but I am becoming increasingly more uncomfortable.

    I recently a revival service where the preach read, literally, half of a verse and spent thirty minutes screaming about God is going to do give breskthrough! Financial breakthrough! Healing breakthrough! Many people stood for thirty minutes, hands raise shouting “praises”. I wondered if these “worshipers” would dovthatbif I stood in that pulpit and quietly preached on Philippians 4:12, “I have learned in all things to be content”, or 1 Timothy 6:6, “Godliness with contenment is great gain”

    It is a very difficult place to be when the light is shown in everything you once believed and it is revealed to be false.

    • Lee, I have been in many churches that started out well but became “God is my ATM” churches. Thankfully, I have also been in churches and ministries in which people would and do cheer at these passages! I discovered some brothers and sisters due to learning Philippians 4 first hand (going from an upper-middle class life to poverty to solidly middle class to the streets and working back up the hard way). The interesting thing, to me, is that I have more patience for people in general, but for those who should know and show compassion and grace yet fail I can grow quite upset. Lately, I am finding more grace for these christians, but not so much if they are pastors.

      • Daniel, for some reason I forgot to include links to yours and David’s blogs. I was too focused on edits for new folk. If you’d like to add anything, go ahead.

        BTW, I have intimate knowledge of the Word of Faith teaching; I was nearly engaged to a girl from a church in Cleveland, TN.

      • Anthony, I went the opposite route! I was engaged to a very legalistic Lutheran. It was upon leaving that relationship that I stumbled headlong into the Word-Faith movement.

  3. Reblogged this on a simple man of God and commented:

    Read my guest list for Anthony.

  4. I so appreciate the comment about not throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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