Abortion: My View & Info

Just in case there is any question, I stand in opposition to abortion.

I know there are some of you, maybe a lot of you, who are “pro-choice;” therefore, I know you disagree with me on this. But that’s OK! It’s your choice (pun intended). I just think you’re wrong.

Some label the subject of abortion a “hot button topic” and avoid discussing it. Many Christians avoid it because they say it’s something that should be left up to the individual to decide. In reality, I think the majority of Christians are uninformed and therefore afraid to say anything.

Well, in the last couple of days I’ve been going back and forth with a foaming-at-the-mouth (in my opinion) abortion advocate (and atheist). The conversation has been taking place on another blog written by J. W. Wartick (click here for link). Even though I’m not the greatest pro-life apologist, I thought I’d at least speak my mind. More of us should.

I have not done much debate on the topic of abortion, so my resources and expertise are limited. Because of this, I have sought out those who HAVE been in the debate for a while.

Therefore, I would like to introduce you to a website that might prove as useful to you as it has for me.

abort73-logo

I have added a widget on my secondary sidebar that will link you to a page on their website which offers strong arguments against abortion.

No, it’s not a fun subject, but it’s one I’m sure is close to the heart of God. Even the NIV-users and the KJV-only folks should be able to agree on that.

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6 responses to “Abortion: My View & Info

  1. The 180 video is also really good Anthony, this subject is one that i seem to be able to explain so many things with. In High School we had a test that had SA questions about abortion. The teacher came in Monday morning and told the class that I should be teaching the class. To be honest I don’t know what I wrote and figure I had been exposed to too much at a early age and was the reason I understood the how to in able to get such praises from the teacher. Well something also tells me I’m on the other side of the argument now. Here is part of a discussion I once had with a lost person. This is geared as a secular argument. I have another geared at Christians I will post after this one.

    Here is a copy of a discussion that was goin on at a website called TruNews. Two people were debating Prolife VS ProChoice. They were going back and forth one said it’s not a baby the other posting pictures. Then I seen the post of what PeaceToAll wrote. I decided I would try and help them back to reality. This is where I jumped in the conversation but first here is what PeaceToAll wrote to another person at the blog.

    ((PeaceToAll “Let me correct myself..pics! Again what is so vile about calling the rape of the virgin Mary what it is…rape? God did it, right? He gave her the gift of Jesus the rape baby. She was part of your 1% you referenced earlier. No big deal right? Why get so upset about that.”))

    Below is my response.

    {H202Bill “Are you really trying to prove a point or did you train-wreck the discussion because you were losing the debate? I truly wish I had 8 hours of time to write you in order to try and persuade you to reconsider these ideas of yours. I will address these comments you made concerning Mary first. To be honest I think there is a much deeper issue that needs resolved and this is really not your hang up. You really have no idea of the mindset of the Jews in Biblical times do you? A woman chosen for what Mary was chosen for would have been overwhelmed with joy over the idea of giving birth to the Messiah. They really believed one day the Messiah would come. God sent an angel to Mary prior to her becoming pregnant with the Christ child. Mary approved of this and was more than willing by her own words. Here I will show you what is recorded. ((Luke 1:38 Then Mary said, “Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.))

    Then afterward she says this ((Luke 1:46-49 And Mary said: “My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. For He who is mighty has done great things for me, And holy is His name.))

    So the picture you paint here and reality are not one of the same.

    Abortion is murder in some states you do get charged with two murders for killing a woman and her unborn baby. I think you have been thinking that abortion is something other than murder for so long that you have bought into the ideas brought forth in it’s defense. These people that promote such things are not finished yet. Are you familiar with the term post birth abortion or 4rth trimester abortion? Well this is coming it’s the murder of babies that have already been born up to a specified age.

    Stop looking at this as it is a argument that must be won at all cost. Try to look at it in a more honest fashion. I tell the story of the Chimps, this is a documented story of a mother chimp that killed at ate her babies. Years had passed then it happened a second time and the other Chimps in the group killed the Mother chimp that did this. I find it hard to fathom how people have managed to sink below the societal levels of a group of chimps.

    Are you sure you are arguing in favor of something you truly believe in? Most mothers that are shown pictures of their unborn babies choose not to have an abortion WHY because it looks just like a baby because it is a baby. The percentage of women in this category is over 80%.

    I had a woman come and confess a abortion to me no it was not my baby. I told her that I could not help her but only God could forgive her. It sounded like one of the most horrifying things a person could endure. She also had a puppy with her it did not take a degree in psychology to figure out that she was treating the puppy like it was her baby and that she got the puppy to try and ease the pain of the abortion. I believe this young woman came to me because she knew I wouldn’t just hit her over the head with my Bible but I would give her straight answers. Woman who have abortions suffer.

    Women who have abortions are much more prone to self abuse at alarming rates including suicide. It is taught to them that abortion is the solution to a unwanted problem. The pain of abortion does not go away. Women will be haunted of the wondering of what their children would have looked like at each age in life. They say children’s birthday parties are most difficult for some of these women.

    Now we need to ask ourselves why things are like that. I will make it simple because abortion is murder no way around it. This is why women struggle after the fact. I have a much bigger problem with the promoter & performers of abortion opposed to those who choose to have them. I can’t say that it’s not murder because it is. But I will do all I can to love and help women who have had an abortion and point them to the one who can actually heal them of their pain. Not that they will ever forget. Some of the strongest advocates against abortion are women that had abortion themselves. It’s traumatizing to have an abortion. You will never forget it.

    I could write a book here explaining my case telling more and more stories. Like the bird found dead post forest fire yet when moved out came three chicks from under her wing she could have flown off to save herself but chose to save her babies. Why did she do that? Is it possible that the living God of heaven has given mothers a sense of protection for their own? Including humans and this is why women struggle so much with the guilt that follows an abortion?

    Would you like to see the tears run down my face when I talk about this subject. What will it take for you to step aside from this political mumbo jumbo of left VS right in order to see this for what it is. Forget about what you have been taught ask yourself why people would want to convince women to do something they are going to regret to the point of suicide? WHY? What is really going on? They just don’t regret it for a weekend or 6 months no they regret it for the rest of their lives. No amount of alcohol will be enough to numb this pain.

    Why do you argue for something that is so harmful to society? You speak of choice when you give the unborn no choice at all. You have chosen PeaceToAll as a screen name yet you will not grant peace to the unborn nor peace to the women who are told that abortion is a way out for them.

    You don’t have to be a super scientist or a religious person to know when life begins. You can watch frog sperm come in contact with a frog egg and then watch it begin to spin and develop. Why would a honest person try and hide behind science using specialized terminology when a child could see this? Abortion is the product of evolution. Why do the abortionist fear the right to life advocates? Because mothers are made to protect and nurture children it goes against their very nature to kill their babies and the abortion crowd knows this. Planned Parenthood won’t let a woman and her children come into a clinic in fear that other women will decide against an abortion. PP covers up rape and incest this is known. I ask you why you argue in favor of such things?

    Is this really your argument? Do you really approve of murder? Do you really want to women to be subject to being traumatized. Who’s side are you really on here?

    More importantly who do you have a problem with the Christian? Or is something else going on?”

    Someday I will finish this I have much more to add here. By the way Spain is getting ready to outlaw most abortions except for certain cases and it will have to be approved of by two different Doctors.

  2. I have something to say, here my voice. I’m here to tell you the building is on fire we are in a state of emergency. How much do I have to say before you will here what I am saying? What will it take for you to get just a glimpse of what things look like from the eyes of God? We are supposed to be the body of Christ and see what He sees. How much do I have explain before you will understand? There is nothing wrong with watching a ball game or other sporting events and other activities I have no the time to list here. Let me ask you this do you turn on the ball game when your house is on fire? The building is on fire we are in a emergency situation. How much do I have to shove in your face before you see what I see? How much of the News do I have to read to you? Not the News you like to read but the real ugly stuff that causes you to look away. The stuff no one want’s to talk about. Why are we not broken? Look at the Church today look at our Country are you not bothered? Or do you just have better things to do? Maybe you just don’t get it. Maybe I could get a Medical Doctor to describe in full detail of what happens during an abortion to get your attention.

    Abortion, hmm when abortion became legal in the US it was a warning a sign that something is wrong and the Church should have looked into the mirror to fix the problem instead of the courts that are full of judges that don’t even know the living God of heaven nor do they know His Law. Who in their right mind would think God-less Judges are going to fix a problem that is battled in the heavens? We are at war the God-less Judges are not on our side. There is a place for Christians to be involved in the court system yet that is a secondary role to the Christians in everyday life. The streets is the battlefield of opportunity. The Christian with his face to the ground flooded with tears many tears will get the job done. Dare to feel the pain Christ feels for one minute just on the issue of abortion and you will be in agony. I have awaken at night before thinking of this horrible sin called abortion. I have prayed to the living God of heaven to make them stop. I believe He will make them stop. If you don’t believe then don’t bother praying. I believe! I know it is not the will of God to have Babies murdered by so called Doctors by the will of their Mothers. My prayer life has changed and only One deserves any credit for this change and it certainly is not me. I’m just a low life scum bag that has been forgiven and just learned how to pray. Can I ask you a question?

    Do you want abortion to stop? Maybe one more question how bad do you want this? I could ask all the NBA players at the beginning of the season of who wanted to win a Championship within the next 2 to 3 seasons and most would raise their hands. How many are willing to do what it takes to win a championship. How many want to stay after practice? How many want to practice all day before the team practice? How many want to dedicate themselves to winning the entire year and not just during the season? How bad do you want it? What are you willing to pay and put your money away it’s no good here. There is nothing that can replace proper prayer we must become broken before God. How many minutes did you pray this week against this thing called abortion? How many meals did you miss? I did not miss any and that needs to change. I love sports if I had the time I could easily prove it. I don’t watch sports anymore because the building is on fire. I remember watching ESPN right after the Tsunami hit. I was like what is wrong with these people who carried on as if sports where important when the reports from Japan where still rolling in.

    I remember one afternoon in the break-room at work reading the paper of two senseless deaths one was a baby the other a argument. I was already upset then on the way home I had the radio on and I forget the exact case but the homosexuals had scored a victory in California and I began to cry asking God how things got so bad it was not long and I was beating my chest asking God to forgive me for all the wasted years I had wasted up to that point.

    I will call this chapter one I have much more to say but I ask again where is the broken Christian?

    Psa_126:5 Those who sow in tears shall reap with joyful shouting.
    Ecc_1:18 Because in much wisdom there is much grief, and
    increasing knowledge results in increasing pain.)

    • Thanks for your book, uh, I mean comment 😉 The lack of brokenness is truly a serious problem. There are few who humbly bend the knee before a holy God.

      • To be honest I am able to get to where I believe I should be (broken) but only for minutes when it needs to be for days, weeks, months, and years. It just seems to me with all that is going on in our country and or Churches we should be more broken over these things. I read Jeremiah and see that he was deeply bothered by what was going on around him. Being more honest I look away to much. It’s a sad state of affairs. I just read about David Brainerd that certainly does not describe me. I will try to close this with out writing another book. I just believe if we seen things as the living God of heaven sees them we would be broken. Our Churches should be filled up with weeping people. Where is the broken Christian if you see him let me know that I might learn from him.

      • You are so correct. Most of us have never truly experienced brokenness. Sure, joy should be a mark of Christianity, but we should also have a broken heart for lost humanity. When it comes to issues like abortion, however, it’s so much easier to look away.

  3. I don’t recall if you’ve read my abortion story or my “Open Letter to Christians” – but I am pretty sure you know my stance on both which go well with your statement:

    ” In reality, I think the majority of Christians are uninformed and therefore afraid to say anything.”

    That’s the truth right there. Because they don’t go find out what God has to say about any of this… and a few (thousand) other topics.

    Fear and lack of knowledge come from not consulting and trusting God for answers and guidance.

    That makes complacency and … well, killing innocent babies much easier.

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